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		<title>Comment on Prayer Request by Fort Howard Council 5382</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fort Howard Council 5382</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Knight Jim LaLuzerne and family for the loss of their mother</description>
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		<title>Comment on Prayer Request by Jack W</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/prayer-request/comment-page-1/#comment-3438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Knights Clifford Bowers and John Dillon.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Prayer Request by Fort Howard Council 5382</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/prayer-request/comment-page-1/#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>Fort Howard Council 5382</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 12:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Knights Clifford Bowers,  Larry Kubale; Brother Knight James La Luzerne mother; Brother Knight Dennis Borley, and SK COL David &amp; Joann Nelson.  Also please keep in your prayers Theresa Denissen recovering from surgery.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Be proud that you&#8217;re a Catholic by Jack W</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/2010/05/08/be-proud-that-youre-a-catholic/comment-page-1/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Pollock,

Thank you for your comments and correcting the erroneous error in Mr. Miller’s article.  My intention for posting was not to inflame or disrespect our Protestant brothers, but meant more to show this problem is more pervasive throughout society and not just a “Catholic” problem.  I have forwarded your response and link to Sojourner Article.

God Bless
Jack Wrbanich
KofC 5382 webmaster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Pollock,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments and correcting the erroneous error in Mr. Miller’s article.  My intention for posting was not to inflame or disrespect our Protestant brothers, but meant more to show this problem is more pervasive throughout society and not just a “Catholic” problem.  I have forwarded your response and link to Sojourner Article.</p>
<p>God Bless<br />
Jack Wrbanich<br />
KofC 5382 webmaster</p>
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		<title>Comment on Be proud that you&#8217;re a Catholic by Rev. Rob Pollock</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/2010/05/08/be-proud-that-youre-a-catholic/comment-page-1/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Rob Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAM MILLER&#039;S NUMBERS

You should have checked your facts!
 
The statement &quot;10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia&quot; (so prominently highlighted in your post) has no basis in fact!  It was refuted in 2003 when this claim was first made and it remains untrue today.
 
In his original 2003 speech Mr. Miller reads extensively from a July/August 2002 Sojourners article by Rose Marie Berger in which she misinterprets statements from Penn. State Prof. Philip Jenkins regarding sexual abuse by Protestant ministers.

In the original article Berger writes...
&quot;Philip Jenkins concludes in his book &quot;Pedophiles and Priests&quot; that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been found guilty of pedophilia (specifically of boys), 10 percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia.&quot; (This quote is used in Miller&#039;s speech)

To which Philip Jenkins responds (Sept/Oct 2002)...
&quot;I regret to say that the statement is baloney. I never said it, and it&#039;s not true!... Every time this ten percent statement appears attributed to me, I try to debunk it, but these things have a life of their own. I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent.&quot;

Sojourner Article... http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&amp;issue=soj0207&amp;article=020741d

Sojourners apologized to its readers for passing on erroneous information and revised the article, removing the incorrect and defamatory information.  But not before Sam Miller got a hold of it!

Regrettably, a much condensed version of Miller&#039;s speech,such as the one you received and posted, has spread like wildfire within the Catholic community by way of the internet and e-mail.  There are hundreds, if not thousands, of websites, blogs, forums, facebook pages, and news services that have posted this condensed version of Mr. Miller&#039;s speech.   

As a Protestant minister I am truly saddened that such false witness can be so uncritically accepted and further disseminated by so many within the Catholic community.  It is particularly disturbing to see otherwise reputable groups like the Knights of Columbus buying into this lie!   It seems that we still find it easier to believe the worst about our neighbour rather than dig a little deeper for the truth.  
 
In the interest of honesty and ecumenical respect this post should be removed or edited to correct the record. Publishing such blatantly false and hurtful information is surely beneath the station of the Knights!  

It is not necessary to defame you friends and neighbours to feel good about yourselves as Catholics.  Any pride derived though this is ultimately a false pride.  
 
Rev. Rob Pollock
Vancouver, BC
CANADA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAM MILLER&#8217;S NUMBERS</p>
<p>You should have checked your facts!</p>
<p>The statement &#8220;10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia&#8221; (so prominently highlighted in your post) has no basis in fact!  It was refuted in 2003 when this claim was first made and it remains untrue today.</p>
<p>In his original 2003 speech Mr. Miller reads extensively from a July/August 2002 Sojourners article by Rose Marie Berger in which she misinterprets statements from Penn. State Prof. Philip Jenkins regarding sexual abuse by Protestant ministers.</p>
<p>In the original article Berger writes&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Philip Jenkins concludes in his book &#8220;Pedophiles and Priests&#8221; that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been found guilty of pedophilia (specifically of boys), 10 percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia.&#8221; (This quote is used in Miller&#8217;s speech)</p>
<p>To which Philip Jenkins responds (Sept/Oct 2002)&#8230;<br />
&#8220;I regret to say that the statement is baloney. I never said it, and it&#8217;s not true!&#8230; Every time this ten percent statement appears attributed to me, I try to debunk it, but these things have a life of their own. I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sojourner Article&#8230; <a href="http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&amp;issue=soj0207&amp;article=020741d" rel="nofollow">http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&amp;issue=soj0207&amp;article=020741d</a></p>
<p>Sojourners apologized to its readers for passing on erroneous information and revised the article, removing the incorrect and defamatory information.  But not before Sam Miller got a hold of it!</p>
<p>Regrettably, a much condensed version of Miller&#8217;s speech,such as the one you received and posted, has spread like wildfire within the Catholic community by way of the internet and e-mail.  There are hundreds, if not thousands, of websites, blogs, forums, facebook pages, and news services that have posted this condensed version of Mr. Miller&#8217;s speech.   </p>
<p>As a Protestant minister I am truly saddened that such false witness can be so uncritically accepted and further disseminated by so many within the Catholic community.  It is particularly disturbing to see otherwise reputable groups like the Knights of Columbus buying into this lie!   It seems that we still find it easier to believe the worst about our neighbour rather than dig a little deeper for the truth.  </p>
<p>In the interest of honesty and ecumenical respect this post should be removed or edited to correct the record. Publishing such blatantly false and hurtful information is surely beneath the station of the Knights!  </p>
<p>It is not necessary to defame you friends and neighbours to feel good about yourselves as Catholics.  Any pride derived though this is ultimately a false pride.  </p>
<p>Rev. Rob Pollock<br />
Vancouver, BC<br />
CANADA</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin Knights of Columbus Badger Bulletin. by Fort Howard Council 5382</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/2010/04/10/wisconsin-knights-of-columbus-badger-bulletin/comment-page-1/#comment-3347</link>
		<dc:creator>Fort Howard Council 5382</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Larry - Jack</description>
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		<title>Comment on About our Blog by Larry Solway</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/about/comment-page-1/#comment-3331</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Solway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT JOB!!  Looks Great, This was not a five minute job!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin Knights of Columbus Badger Bulletin. by Larry Solway</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/2010/04/10/wisconsin-knights-of-columbus-badger-bulletin/comment-page-1/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Solway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word is edition not addition,</description>
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		<title>Comment on Prayer Request by Fort Howard Council 5382</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/prayer-request/comment-page-1/#comment-3327</link>
		<dc:creator>Fort Howard Council 5382</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Knight Jim LaLuzerne mother who fell and is now in a nursing home

Brother Knight Peter and his Lady Leanne Denissen who lost her bother recently</description>
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<p>Brother Knight Peter and his Lady Leanne Denissen who lost her bother recently</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Open Letter from the Supreme Knight to Senator Joseph Biden by Jack</title>
		<link>http://kofc5382.org/blog/2008/09/22/an-open-letter-from-the-supreme-knight-to-senator-joseph-biden/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some are upset with Anderson&#039;s open letter stating that he dosn&#039;t speak for all the Knights.

&quot;&quot;Basically, I read it, and as that letter ended, it said Mr. Anderson was speaking for all Knights,&quot; Gebhard told Catholic News Service Sept. 30. &quot;He wasn&#039;t speaking for me.&quot;

Gebhard, a member of Boston-based Catholic Democrats, said he contacted the organization to discuss how he could respond to Anderson&#039;s letter and learned that several other Knights shared his disagreement with Anderson. Within days of the letter&#039;s publication, Gebhard decided to pursue the Web site option.&quot;

Go to http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0804967.htm to read the entire artical</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some are upset with Anderson&#8217;s open letter stating that he dosn&#8217;t speak for all the Knights.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Basically, I read it, and as that letter ended, it said Mr. Anderson was speaking for all Knights,&#8221; Gebhard told Catholic News Service Sept. 30. &#8220;He wasn&#8217;t speaking for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gebhard, a member of Boston-based Catholic Democrats, said he contacted the organization to discuss how he could respond to Anderson&#8217;s letter and learned that several other Knights shared his disagreement with Anderson. Within days of the letter&#8217;s publication, Gebhard decided to pursue the Web site option.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0804967.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0804967.htm</a> to read the entire artical</p>
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